[These and previous minutes are
available as a web page on conservation.ecclesfieldgroups.com. Just click on "Minutes" for the minutes
of the last meeting]
Minutes of the Conservation Group
meeting of 2011-11-21 (Monday)
19:30 in the Stocks
and letters in square brackets refer to
corresponding items in the agenda of the same date. This version of the
last amended on 2011-12-04]
[a] John Ellis chaired
[b] Although no attendance
sheet was distributed, and no exact count was made, the meeting was well attended. 32 people
currently receive emailed agendas and minutes. An apology for not attending past and
future meetings was received from Councillor Vic Bowden, who would like
to come to more of our meetings, but is unable to do so at the moment.
these minutes. The minutes of
the previous meeting were
accepted without amendment.
Things we are doing
[z] Their will be no December
meeting, so the next
meeting of the
Conservation Group will be on 2012-01-16 (Monday) at 19:30 in
 Our objection to the
application to extend the Black Bull
licensing hours was discussed, with members re-iterating their
concern about the likely increased noise. [I have since been told that although some of our members signed
the petition against the application, and some attended the licensing
committee meeting itself, the
application was granted. I have also been told that there was a
deadline for objections of 2011-11-03, which is before the Conservation
Group's letter of objection was written. Presumably because of this our
letter was not registered as an objection. At least the Group's
discussion of the issue at the previous meeting served to alert
interested members. Members may wish to keep an eye (or ear) open to
possible problems, and note that Sheffield City Council
Licensing Department¨ say that
they can review an existing license should complaints be reported to
them - JP].
 JP said that following our
objection to the original planning application by Bradbury's Haulage, that application
had been withdrawn, and a new application made. Although the new
application did contain some changes, including the moving of the
workshop/garage away from the adjoining gardens by one lorry width, the
original objections still appeared to apply. We therefore copied our
original letter of objection to the new application [See planning application 11/03358/FUL¨
and click on "ECCLESFIELD CONSERVATION GROUP" to see this copy].
 ID informed us that only
two of the five listed buildings in Ecclesfield are marked on Sheffield
City Council’s Conservation Area Map.
We therefore resolved to write on behalf of the Conservation Group to
ask the Council why this might be. [ See Sheffield City
Council's Ecclesfield Conservation Area Map¨, (version with no revisions but File >
Properties > Description > Modified = 2007-06-13)].
 ID reported that 8 people
had attended the Heritage Board
training meeting, and that the meeting proved extremely
valuable. After an initial teaching session on heritage boards and
trails, attendees split into smaller groups to discuss the design of
their respective projects. Ian mentioned some of the ideas generated to
us, and the following generally found favour ...
PB reported that the board itself has now been paid for. However,
we still need photographs and suggestions, and it was therefore decided
to distribute a poster asking for this [A copy of the poster can be seen by
clicking on Ecclesfield Heritage Board. If anybody has
information on "Ecclesfield's working past" they are invited to ring
Peter Barker on 0114 2463626 or email ].
- Organization of the board around a central core, perhaps
containing a map.
- Perhaps 5 keyed elements flowing outwards from that core.
- The inclusion of the word "Work" or "Working past" in the
- The accompaniment of an extended leaflet with 6 sections on each
- A launch event, with sandwiches and refreshments.
historical website was also mentioned, and it was decided to write
to Mr Spick to see if he wanted to contribute [Now done - JP].
 The possibility of putting boundary markers or signs at the
entries into to Ecclesfield were mentioned, and ID passed round a
printout showing lots of possible designs. There were thought to be 5
roads into Ecclesfield, but the need for land to site them on, and for
Highways Approval, were thought to reduce this to possibly 3
practicable sites. Prices had been obtained ranging from "£5,000
+ VAT and transport" for stone to £260 for something like a road sign.
A compromise estimate from "Stonewise" of around £500 - £660 each
seemed to find favour.
JE had brought a copy of the form for applying for a grant from the
Northern Community Assembly "Environmental Improvement Fund", so it was
decided to make an application for funding [This application had to go in the day
after the meeting, but I understand that it did make the deadline,
although with an accompanying letter suggesting further discussion on
the project costs - JP].
told us that we were still hoping for details of Sheffield City
Council's own traffic survey
information to compare with ours.
 JE and ID told us about the
meeting of environmental and
conservation groups at Grenoside School which they hoped to
attend on behalf of the Group.
application "11/03560/CHU" for a waste transfer station on the
Station Road Industrial Estate was discussed. The nature of the waste,
and the route to be taken by the extra lorry traffic, were both
discussed. JP said that the application stated that the waste would be
non-toxic, however there did not seem to be any undertakings in regard
to the traffic. It was decided to make a formal objection on the basis
of the excess lorry traffic, particularly that travelling down the
Common to the M1 [ Go to the Council Planning web site and click on "General Comment" dated 25 Nov 2011
[y] We received a grant of £150
for this year's Ecclesfield Christmas
tree. A letter of thanks has been sent to the Parish Council.
Due to the cuts, the amount was down from the £300 received last year [I spotted a note in the Parish Council
minutes saying that this £150 was general throughout the area - JP].
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